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<img alt="" src="http://bbs.0513zs.com/Skins/default/topicface/face1.gif"/>对不起了,上周工作变动,没有时间上来,现在发上来,准备最近动工了<br/> <p>不好意思，前段时间太忙，只有今天抽些空回答楼主的问题了，见谅啊。</p><p>我把发现的几个问题列出来。</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">问题一：品名规格不详</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">这是最大的一个问题，比如油漆部分，用的是立邦（网帆非常讨厌这个牌子，建议楼主换掉），但没写明是何种系列的漆；踢脚线写的是“新阳光白色”，没注明是何种材质；壁纸写明了品牌，但是也没注明是什么材质和花色的</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">………</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">报价里很多地方都存在这个问题。材料不写明品牌及规格，就很难评判它报价是高还是低，而且将来容易给装修公司钻空子，这项工作一定要让装修公司补齐。</span></p><p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">问题二：单价过高</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">乳胶漆的单价太高，乳胶漆部分的价格是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">23.5+5+6</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">＝</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">34.5</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">元</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">/</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">平米，就是用了所谓的金装漆，这个价格也忒高了点。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">这还不算，看到后面一个问题，楼主肯定更生气啦。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">问题三：项目拆分</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">客卧部分的白色乳胶漆是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">15.65</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">平米，米黄色乳胶漆是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">28.97</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">平米，两者相加是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">44.62</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">平米。而客卧偏偏收取了一个</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">44.4</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">平米的“墙面基层处理”费用，乳胶漆施工就应该包含了基层处理这个项目，而这份报价里却将“墙面基础处理”作为一项单独的报价列出来，这一项其实是重复收费了。</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">问题四：漏报</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">缺少防水这一个重要项目。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">还有厨房及卫生间、阳台怎么都没有地砖铺设这一项？</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">问题五：无中生有</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">“脚手费”这个名称网帆从来没听说过</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">本来以为“机械费”是指机械磨损费，如果是这样，也属于无中生有，后来理解了，这一项应该是“机械钻孔费”。嘿，这开报价单的小子也忒懒了点。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">问题六：损耗</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">不应该有损耗的地方报了损耗，水电改造报了</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">10%</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">的损耗，家具柜体报了</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">20%</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">的损耗。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">有些地方有损耗高报，比如瓷砖报了</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">10</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">％的损耗，正常应该在</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">％左右。</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">给楼主的几点建议：</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 18pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 18.0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><font face="Times New Roman">1、<span style="FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman";"><font size="3"> </font></span></font></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">壁纸、移门这类材料最好自己采购。这类材料花色品种很多，价格差异也很大，这类材料自己采购，可以控制预算。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 18pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 18.0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><font face="Times New Roman">2、<span style="FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman";"><font size="3"> </font></span></font></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">装修公司提供的材料品牌、规格一定要详细。有些材料可以请装修公司提供小样给你，比如塑料扣板、天然石材等</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 18pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 18.0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><font face="Times New Roman">3、<span style="FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman";"><font size="3"> </font></span></font></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">关键施工项目的工艺要求要写明。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 18pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 18.0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><font face="Times New Roman">4、<span style="FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman";"><font size="3"> </font></span></font></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">所有施工面积一定要复核一遍，往往装修公司喜欢在数量上玩手段。</span></p> <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>xxyrg</i>在2006-5-31 22:06:17的发言：</b><br/><p>...........另外,请对地板\地砖\洁具\橱柜\油漆等提出意见.拜托了.确实不懂</p></div><p>实木地板网帆到现在还没有什么合作伙伴，“大自然”因为某种原因，网帆是不会和他合作的；“安信”找过一次，但老板太拽，没答应团购；“方圆”地板其实是个好牌子，在外地卖的很火，但南通的老板卖的并不好，加上没什么广告，反而搞的知名度不高。但不管怎样，网帆还是要帮大家寻找一家好的地板合作商。</p><p>地砖建议到永兴买，那儿卖80多一块的80×80的地砖相当不错了。好一家的瓷砖太贵。</p><p>洁具目前正在搞“四维”的团购，这是一个性价比颇高的品牌。</p><p>橱柜我推荐“金美达”，目前也正在团购。</p><p>油漆方面。乳胶漆建议用多乐士，木器漆用一些大牌子的，比如长春藤、美涂士、华润、长颈鹿、紫荆花等就行了。</p> <img alt="" src="http://bbs.0513zs.com/Skins/default/topicface/face1.gif"/>谢谢网帆!情况变化了,我老家从小一起长大的伙伴,现在在南通做油漆,昨天回老家遇到了.现在除水、电路改造，地、墙砖我在如皋找人，其他全部交给他负责。 <p><img alt="" src="http://bbs.0513zs.com/Skins/default/topicface/face1.gif"/></p><p>听取网帆的意见，油漆再考虑。现在先要解决水、电、瓦工进场的准备，是否先要确定橱柜、洁具、地砖、墙砖、防漏？下午上南通先确定橱柜（就用金美达），还有网络布线等。</p><p>工程施工的详细信息，我会发上去，但可能不会很及时。单位事情多</p> <p>开工前确实要将橱柜和洁具确定下来，因为这两样东西关系到水电工如何布线。</p><p>在开工前最好将橱柜图纸和洁具（主要是浴室柜、沐浴房）安装尺寸图交给水电工。</p><p>如果要安装电热水器，也要在开工前确定好，将尺寸图交给水电工。</p><p>墙砖、地砖的购买可以在水电隐蔽工程即将结束时考虑。</p><p>和瓷砖同时购买的材料有防水材料，填缝剂和地漏。这些都是瓦工所需的。</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://bbs.0513zs.com/Skins/default/topicface/face1.gif"/></p><p>谢谢网帆!另外,橱柜我已经报名参加团购,沟通一下.今天已经完成了智能家居的合同.</p>
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